Comments on: The State of the Nation: I am afraid http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-state-of-the-nation Bringing the Future Into Focus Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:12:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Richard Shropshire http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-177 Richard Shropshire Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:08:11 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-177 Ashley, the Krupps did not lose it all. There is a book that will answer whatever questions you may have. It's "The Rise of the Forth Reich" by Jim Marrs which is carried by Amazon. The National Socialist Workers Party is alive and well, not only in South America, but around the world, in places like the CIA for instance. Ashley, the Krupps did not lose it all. There is a book that will answer whatever questions you may have. It’s “The Rise of the Forth Reich” by Jim Marrs which is carried by Amazon. The National Socialist Workers Party is alive and well, not only in South America, but around the world, in places like the CIA for instance.

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]]> By: “Big Daddy” Obama and the American Police State « Hurricane Alley… by J. D. Longstreet http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-172 “Big Daddy” Obama and the American Police State « Hurricane Alley… by J. D. Longstreet Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:28:24 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-172 [...] I recently came across an article by John W. White­head, Pres­i­dent of The Ruther­ford Institute entitled: “The State of the Nation: I am afraid.” [...] […] I recently came across an article by John W. White­head, Pres­i­dent of The Ruther­ford Institute entitled: “The State of the Nation: I am afraid.” […]

]]> By: Ashley H http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Ashley H Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:57:08 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-171 Well, obviously I don't know an am speculating shamelessly. But just looking at the style/manner. If there are well-organised power networks, it does seem that there is a deceptive thread running through the whole approach, one that uses secrets within secrets as ways to buffer and manage power/influence flow. Assuming such secrecy flow is indeed a key element in the operating dynamic, then it is more than likely that the inner secret groups have not been revealed, that they only operate via front groups. I read somewhere a while back that the head of the Krupps family, for example, a few decades ago, was worth several trillions (?), whatever the amount at that time more than most developed countries. Did they lose it all during the war? I doubt it. Where is it all, what is it doing? How many other old family 'empires' (and that is a relatively new one) are out there under the radar and how are they using them in the global power/influence matrix? Certainly one rarely - if ever - hears about what they are doing. Well, obviously I don’t know an am speculating shamelessly. But just looking at the style/manner. If there are well-organised power networks, it does seem that there is a deceptive thread running through the whole approach, one that uses secrets within secrets as ways to buffer and manage power/influence flow. Assuming such secrecy flow is indeed a key element in the operating dynamic, then it is more than likely that the inner secret groups have not been revealed, that they only operate via front groups.

I read somewhere a while back that the head of the Krupps family, for example, a few decades ago, was worth several trillions (?), whatever the amount at that time more than most developed countries. Did they lose it all during the war? I doubt it. Where is it all, what is it doing? How many other old family ‘empires’ (and that is a relatively new one) are out there under the radar and how are they using them in the global power/influence matrix? Certainly one rarely — if ever — hears about what they are doing.

]]> By: Richard Shropshire http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Richard Shropshire Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:01:44 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-170 Ashley, for there to be a superior authority over the Rothschilds, the only reasonable alternative that occurs to me is that is a remnant of the Templars, or perhaps the Scottish Rite beyond the 33rd degree. For these possibilities to seek out a Jewish family to serve as an intermediary seems unlikely. BTW, one source that I remember indicated that there are may be as many Masonic degrees as there are in a circle (360). Ashley, for there to be a superior authority over the Rothschilds, the only reasonable alternative that occurs to me is that is a remnant of the Templars, or perhaps the Scottish Rite beyond the 33rd degree. For these possibilities to seek out a Jewish family to serve as an intermediary seems unlikely.
BTW, one source that I remember indicated that there are may be as many Masonic degrees as there are in a circle (360).

]]> By: larry751 http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-169 larry751 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:16:10 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-169 Yes Ashley Dear. Forgive my Attitude Today. I will work harder on that. Yes Ashley Dear.

Forgive my Attitude Today. I will work harder on that.

]]> By: Ashley H http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-168 Ashley H Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:50:19 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-168 Richard: re the Rothschilds. Until I can read a definitive account of how the original Mayer became so influential so quickly I tend to believe that he and his ilk are more like the Executive Secretary class of more deep-rooted networks. They are the public/outer level of the secret networks in other words. Their functions are essentially managerial rather than those of true leaders. At least that's how it seems to me looking at the whole thing from the outside. Larry: apologies for ridiculous and haughty vocabulary. Mood du jour I guess. Richard: re the Rothschilds. Until I can read a definitive account of how the original Mayer became so influential so quickly I tend to believe that he and his ilk are more like the Executive Secretary class of more deep-rooted networks. They are the public/outer level of the secret networks in other words. Their functions are essentially managerial rather than those of true leaders. At least that’s how it seems to me looking at the whole thing from the outside.

Larry: apologies for ridiculous and haughty vocabulary. Mood du jour I guess.

]]> By: Richard Shropshire http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-167 Richard Shropshire Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:53:34 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-167 There are many who rule, but there is one ring to rule them all. It is worn by a Rothschild who carries a red shield. There are many who rule, but there is one ring to rule them all. It is worn by a Rothschild who carries a red shield.

]]> By: larry751 http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-166 larry751 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:13:44 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-166 Ashley H Spoken like a True Blue Blood and Above the Heads of the Common Man or Woman who just want a Better World without all the BS Smoke up the A$$ Vocabulary Haughtiness. Your Vocabulary is Impressive but Ridiculous. But you already knew that of else you would not have written is such a fashion. Ashley H

Spoken like a True Blue Blood and Above the Heads of the Common Man or Woman who just want a Better World without all the BS Smoke up the A$$ Vocabulary Haughtiness.

Your Vocabulary is Impressive but Ridiculous. But you already knew that of else you would not have written is such a fashion.

]]> By: Ashley H http://www.augustforecast.com/2010/01/27/the-state-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-165 Ashley H Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:45:48 +0000 http://www.augustforecast.com/?p=1586#comment-165 Without meaning any disrespect to the author of this piece or the editor, I am getting tired of this sort of thing. On the one hand, educating people about the underlying corruption is always helpful. On the other, for those who have 'seen the darkness' for many years, what is also needed, and sorely lacking, are more offerings describing what, if anything, can be done to ameliorate the situation, which is shared in most developed countries (if not all) and which is also a fairly typical one by the norms of world history. Such norms are, simply put: as a society becomes established over time, the class structure which evolves pretty much always reflects the following: the general population on the one hand and a leadership class on the other which, once established, tends to tighten its grip on current power/influence derived from milking the profit-cream of that society's general productivity by acting to prevent rivals to its power/influence from overthrowing them. At this point, the societal momentum tends to stall or reverse, and whether the resultant development leads to anarchy or totalitarianism, the end result is always the same: negative momentum leading to dysfunction/mayhem/murder/famine etc. at which point the whole cycle starts all over again. In days of yore this dynamic was recognised, even though it occurred on far smaller scales population-wise, and the institution of monarchy was developed as a means to a) consolidate power in the hands of a small locus, ideally and individual who b) could thus more easily be overthrown if outrageously corrupt but if not c) could more easily effect checks and balances in order to harmonise the exploitative tendencies of the leadership class (who provide great uplift as well as corruption to any society because they tend to be the most intelligent, ambitious etc.) with the everyday human needs/productivity of the general (lower) classes. So: we are in a nascent totalitarian phase. Nothing new in that. It's not looking good. Nothing new in that. The storylines about 'freedom' etc. we have imbibed growing up are being revealed as fallacious. Sad but true. Nothing new in that. So what to do? This comment is a call for all the well-informed, intelligent 'educators' who have invested much time (and courage) in revealing the cesspit of corruption through which we daily drive to work and live to articulating various examples historically and hypothetically which we could learn from in terms of beginning to craft a way through and out of this mess into something better. Without meaning any disrespect to the author of this piece or the editor, I am getting tired of this sort of thing. On the one hand, educating people about the underlying corruption is always helpful. On the other, for those who have ‘seen the darkness’ for many years, what is also needed, and sorely lacking, are more offerings describing what, if anything, can be done to ameliorate the situation, which is shared in most developed countries (if not all) and which is also a fairly typical one by the norms of world history.

Such norms are, simply put: as a society becomes established over time, the class structure which evolves pretty much always reflects the following: the general population on the one hand and a leadership class on the other which, once established, tends to tighten its grip on current power/influence derived from milking the profit-cream of that society’s general productivity by acting to prevent rivals to its power/influence from overthrowing them.

At this point, the societal momentum tends to stall or reverse, and whether the resultant development leads to anarchy or totalitarianism, the end result is always the same: negative momentum leading to dysfunction/mayhem/murder/famine etc. at which point the whole cycle starts all over again.

In days of yore this dynamic was recognised, even though it occurred on far smaller scales population-wise, and the institution of monarchy was developed as a means to
a) consolidate power in the hands of a small locus, ideally and individual who
b) could thus more easily be overthrown if outrageously corrupt but if not
c) could more easily effect checks and balances in order to harmonise the exploitative tendencies of the leadership class (who provide great uplift as well as corruption to any society because they tend to be the most intelligent, ambitious etc.) with the everyday human needs/productivity of the general (lower) classes.

So: we are in a nascent totalitarian phase. Nothing new in that. It’s not looking good. Nothing new in that. The storylines about ‘freedom’ etc. we have imbibed growing up are being revealed as fallacious. Sad but true. Nothing new in that.

So what to do?

This comment is a call for all the well-informed, intelligent ‘educators’ who have invested much time (and courage) in revealing the cesspit of corruption through which we daily drive to work and live to articulating various examples historically and hypothetically which we could learn from in terms of beginning to craft a way through and out of this mess into something better.

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